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My friends think VSCode is a hacking simulator
Greetings everyone! I ran into a bottleneck here and I am not quite sure how to solve it. I got some feedback from a few friends who said that the folder system works great conceptually, especially after I did a demo and answered their questions, but the biggest obstacle is having to use VSCode to manage the folders and files. They feel it is missing a much simpler interface to interact with the workspaces. I thought about building a local control panel to run the harness under the hood. I tried setting this up using OpenCode + my custom GUI, but the interface was too clunky and the user experience was terrible. A few weeks later I saw Jake’s new system and it blew my mind, it was pretty much exactly what I had been trying to achieve. Naturally, I am now thinking of building a much simpler, local, single user version with a friendlier GUI. Does anyone have a roadmap or suggestions on how to build something like this? Has anyone built a similar lightweight GUI wrapper for ICM workspaces? Any help would be appreciated, thank you!
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@Mofedul Alam Joy Thanks for the reply! I tested your suggestion, but I still don't think it is simple enough for non technical users. Ultimately, it doesn't feel much different from using VSCode. Since I have a tech background, this setup is easy for me, but for them, it is still too complicated. I have a much simpler solution in mind, but thanks for the idea anyway!
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@Brennan Cheung Hi! Answering your questions: 1 - I thought of a local app running Electron or something along those lines. 2 - They would use this app to: - create articles - handle PDFs - run other workflows using ICM - manage ICM workflows - "the whole package" 3 - Skill level: From an electrical engineer who teaches IT, to a teacher who really struggles with tech. But they all know what a file or folder is. 4 - I want to teach them to create their own ICM workflows. At the very least, a cleaner way to configure and use these setups. I hope that answers your questions :) The summary is this: what I had in mind is practically the same thing that Jake created in his SaaS, but running locally, look at this: It would be a local app where: - A home page where the user can: - create new workflows - see all ready-made workflows listed - open an existing workflow - Upon opening a workflow: - they see: - file management - a chat panel - easy access to edit files. Since I work a lot with content creation, having an editor with easy access helps a ton. With a panel like this, users could build anything using ICM. I know that the desktop version of the OpenCode app has almost everything, almost: it is only missing a file browser and a built-in editor. Right now it only lists conversations, and the "file manager" is just a diff output that you cannot edit. I also tested T3 (https://t3.codes/), but it also has the same problem of not having an easy way to edit files. The system Jake built is easy and simple. A local version of that would be a dream! Maybe it is a bit of an ambitious goal, but an interface like this would make even my life here a lot easier.
The Clief Notes AI is live 📣
It’s live. Starting today, everyone in Clief Notes has access to the new Clief Notes AI. The easiest way to use it? Don’t overthink it. Ask it the question you would normally ask me. “Where should I start?” “What should I focus on next?” “Where did you talk about [topic]?” It’ll use what’s already inside Clief Notes to help answer you and point you toward the right lesson or resource when there’s something worth going deeper on. The goal isn’t to give you another AI tool to play with. It’s to make everything already inside this community easier to actually use. If you want Access to it Comment "READY" and we'll send you access to it!
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READY
🤯 Something in here has been broken for a while
Alright, here’s what we’ve been sitting on. We’re past 2,700 posts and 40+ lessons now. The number one thing we hear on Wednesday onboarding calls is some version of: “Where do I start?” “What should I do next?” “Did someone already answer this?” Fair. There’s a lot in here. So we’re bringing in an AI trained on the Clief Notes library. Every lesson. Every Afternoon Tea. Every High Tea drop. It actually knows what’s in here. 🧭 Tell it what you’re stuck on, and it points you toward the right lesson or drop. 🗺️ Tell it where you’re at, and it can help you figure out what to focus on instead of just telling everyone to “start at The Foundation.” 🔍 Ask it about something we’ve covered before, and it helps you find it without scrolling through months of content. And when we launch it, everyone gets access. More on that very soon.
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@David Vogel I thought of a quick move to help solve this problem while you guys are building the AI system, and to cut down on onboarding support requests in the meantime, what if you create a visual map as a JPG or PNG, desktop wallpaper size, styled like a Monopoly game board? Each major space on the board would be a specific step for the student to follow. This would help beginners visually navigate the content and orient themselves right away. Does that make sense?
My ICM pitch
I work as a Digital Transformation consultant, but ever since I showed ICM to one of my clients, it naturally became the center of my activity - now everything turns arrowd it, someway or another. Jake and this community have REALLY changed my live. This means I pitch this stuff a lot. So I asked my ICM_Incubator folder to create a presentation, and then shared that in a chatGPT sites. That's it, just a sales pitch. way less cool than browser extentions or cool tools, but money's got come from somewhere😅... https://icm-operating-system.pedrorc-wt.chatgpt.site/
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Congrats on the presentation, it looks really cool! Just a quick heads up, if you are going to use this to pitch to actual clients, consider buying a custom domain. Sending a pitch with a URL like this can look a bit sketchy, to the point where clients might think it is a scam. Since you work with digital transformation, having your own domain is definitely worth it.
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@Pedro Costa hmmm got it.
ICM Folders vs skills, please advise
Hi, im making a general marketing agent for small biz package in the form of an installable icm type system for non-technical people to use with their simple harnesses like co-work. To confirm, the idea is that the main functions that many would create a complicated skill for, we instead make as folders correct? Like a video ad Gen agent, including its capabilities is all in the folder as routing an instruction files, not as a skill in the agent skills folder? This has always made more sense to me. I always intuitively understood the benefit of this, did it this way originally, as agent skill limitations and reliability has always bothered me a bit, but I'm struggling to articulate the benefits if I had to explain it to a client, why not make it all a skill. Can somebody help me articulate the benefit difference in a good way, logical easy to understand? It's still to intuitive for me. Also interested to know if there are situations where we would make an agent skill instead of a folder with capabilities and how to identify those situations well? Possibly more the simple things are skills and full on agent functions are folders right, but even all skills/agent xapabilities for that function should be in the folder so maybe we only make skills for small random capabilities not part of primary grouped functions? What is a good line to draw? Or don't we use skills at all? Thanks!
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I like to keep things simple. Here is how I structure my thinking: 1. Break the task down into smaller, manageable pieces. 2. Create an ICM stage for each piece. 3. If a stage needs to perform a highly repetitive, technical task, decide between: - A Skill, if you need a specialist to do something for you (e.g., a skill to evaluate if your web design actually "smells good" / looks clean). - A Script, if you need a strictly DETERMINISTIC result (e.g., generating a PDF report with a predefined design using HTML + Python). Now, when it comes to clients, always remember: **It doesn't matter what color the cat is, as long as it catches the mouse.** Clients don't care how your folder system works under the hood. They just want to know the bottom-line benefits of using it. My key selling points to pitch to a client are: - No vendor lock-in: you can use Claude, GPT, or any other AI model. - You own the system: if your developer disappears, you aren't left holding the bag. It's on your local drive. - Token economy, it’s way cheaper to run structured stages than going "Wild West style", throwing a giant, messy prompt at the AI and hoping for the best. - Fully auditable, everything is written in plain, readable English. - Open standard, anyone with basic tech skills can jump in, make modifications, and improve the system. At the end of the day, clients only care about two things: 1. How it makes them money. 2. How it saves them time. Keep your conversations within those two parameters and you’ll do great. If you ever get stuck explaining things to a client, just remember the cat. ;)
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Evandro Pastor
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I'm a brazilian dude. 47 years old. Playing with web stuff since 1997.

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