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The Ladder With No Rungs
Your best tech is going to leave you. Maybe in ten years. Maybe on a Friday. That's not the problem. The problem is you'll be surprised. Here's the pattern. A tech comes in green. You put time into him. Your A-tech stops what he's doing to answer his questions. You pay for the classes. He earns his certs. Then he lands at B-tech. And he sits there. Good work. Steady hours. Nothing new to aim at. Meanwhile, the phone rings. Not yours. His. I know an A-tech who got calls from six shops. Six. Your B-tech is on those same lists. He's just lower down. He doesn't mention it. He doesn't complain. He just gets a little quieter. They won't tell you, because they like you. Then one Friday he asks if you've got a minute. And you're back to being a man down. The best retention idea I've seen this year didn't come from our industry. It came from a hair salon. I watched a video about a $1.2 million extension salon in Los Angeles. The salon trains its stylists. The stylists build a following. Then they leave and take the clients with them. The advice: stop treating that like a roadside breakdown. It's scheduled maintenance. You know it's coming. So plan for it. In our world the customers mostly stay. What walks out is the skill you paid to build. Same video, a five-location nail salon. They built a long ladder with lots of small steps. Their people stay about four years on average, and staff without a degree work their way up to $70K. Different trade. Same math. So why do most shops lose the techs they spent years building? Three reasons. 1. The silence. Most shops run three rungs. C, B, A. The gap between them can run a year or more. Techs don't quit over the size of the raise. They quit in the silence between raises. And Indeed fills silence for a living. 2. The raise by threat. How does a tech get a real raise in most shops? He gets an offer somewhere else, and you match it. If the only way to get a raise in your shop is an offer from the shop down the street, you already have a career path. It just runs through your competitor.
The Ladder With No Rungs
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Well, I have some work to do.
You're doing everything you can see
One owner on a peer group call put it better than I ever have. It's easy to get stuck in a rut and think you're crushing it. That you're doing everything you can. Then you sit in a room with owners further down the road. And you find out what's actually possible. Here's the version I see over and over. An owner with 20, 30 years in the business goes to a training event. Or starts working with a new coach. And he comes home lit up like a first-year apprentice. Talking fast. Notebook full. Monday's meeting already planned in his head. This isn't a rookie. This is a guy who's made it through recessions, parts shortages, and more comebacks than he'd care to count. A month later, the notebook's in a drawer. It's not that he isn't serious. He's one of the most serious operators you'll meet. It's something almost nobody figures out on their own. I'll come back to it. EVERYTHING YOU CAN SEE If you're reading this thinking, "I'm already doing everything I can," I believe you. You're doing everything you can see. And what you can see depends on the room you've been standing in. Every owner has a gauge in his head. It got calibrated by the shops you know, the numbers you've hit, the stories you hear at the parts counter. When you say "we're crushing it," you're reading that gauge. And you're reading it right. The rut isn't laziness. You're reading the gauge right. It's just calibrated to the wrong spec. WHY THE ROOM WORKS Here's what I think that owner was pointing at. The room doesn't give you ideas alone. You can get ideas from a podcast on the drive in. The room gives you evidence. The thing you filed under "not possible for a shop like mine" is sitting across the table from you. Eating the same bad conference lunch. Ideas are cheap. Evidence changes what you believe. Wanna bet? There's a book I keep coming back to. Thinking in Bets, by Annie Duke. She was a professional poker player, and the book is about making decisions when you can't see all the cards.
You're doing everything you can see
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Sometimes you don't know what you don't know, so always be learning. I was in a peer group conversation recently when someone used the word "practice." It stuck with me. There's a reason we say we practice yoga, we practice gratitude, we practice... fill in whatever you're working toward. Practice is powerful because there's no finish line. It's not about reaching an end goal; it's about the journey and getting a little better every time. That's a mindset worth applying everywhere we can. It's easy to get stuck in a rut and think you're crushing it. Unless you practice.
WHERE’S THE OWNER? SHOULDN’T HE BE HERE?
"He's always gone. Must be nice." If you own a shop, somebody in your building has said that about you. Probably this month. Buck Monson wrote the best answer to it I've read. He owns a diesel repair and HD towing shop in Davenport, Iowa, and posted this in his TruckShop411.com community. He gave me permission to bring it over here. Read all the way to the Army stretcher. If you've built a shop that runs without you standing in the middle of it, this one is a victory lap. If you're still climbing, it's a roadmap. _________________________________ WHERE’S THE OWNER? SHOULDN’T HE BE HERE? “He’s always gone. Must be nice.” I was a young lad once, and I’m sure at some point I looked at a business owner and thought the same damn thing. Where is he? Why isn’t he here working with everybody else? What a young technician usually doesn’t understand is that he’s looking at Chapter 20 of a book and judging it without reading Chapters 1 through 19. Most successful truck shop owners I know didn’t start out with managers, supervisors, service writers, established customers, nice equipment and money in the bank. A lot of us went through hell getting there. BEFORE “MUST BE NICE” Starting a truck repair business can mean taking damn near everything you’ve got and putting it on the line. Maybe you sell equipment. Maybe you drain your savings. Maybe you borrow money. Maybe your spouse helps keep everything together while you’re trying to get the doors open. Then the bills start. The building. The equipment. Diagnostic computers and software. Insurance. Payroll. Workers’ compensation. Utilities. Trash. Parts. Service trucks. Taxes. And about 500 other expenses you never knew existed until you owned a business. Then come all those customers who told you: “If you ever open your own shop, we’ll bring everything to you.” You open the doors and suddenly half of them can’t remember your phone number. Funny how that works. But after you’ve struggled for a few years, built a reputation, hired good people and proven you’re going to make it, some of those same people show up.
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I think you forgot "your so lucky you have this" my reply is always see everything above.
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have to love this, You are so luck is all about perpective
You don't have a turnover problem.
You don't have a turnover problem. You have one seat that eats people. Maybe two. Maybe three. Ten minutes and one sheet of paper will tell you which ones. "I can't keep anybody." I hear it every week. Then I ask how long the lead tech has been there. "Oh, forever." So which is it? Same ad. Same spot. Running again. And somewhere along the way, you quietly decided you're just bad at picking people. You're probably not. One shop owner in this group has an office manager going on 40 years. His lead tech is at 21. Average tenure is about seven years. Then he named the real pattern in one sentence: "It's that short little window of that last three or four seats that just seem to be rotating." Three or four seats. Out of the whole shop. He doesn't have a turnover problem either. Average tenure is a number that hides the only thing you need to see. A dozen people who never leave and three chairs that have had nine people in them can average out just fine. The average says healthy. The chairs say bleeding. Turnover isn't a number. It's a map. Here's where it gets expensive. When it feels like everybody's leaving, you reach for the shop-wide fix. New pay plan. Team meeting about attitude. Better benefits. So you raise pay for twelve people to fix one chair. Your lifers sit through a meeting about why people quit. And the seat keeps eating people. Because nobody ever looked at the seat. You know what you call a tech who replaces the same part three times without finding out why it keeps failing? A parts changer. That's what we do with people. Three hires. Same chair. And three times, you told yourself you picked wrong. They weren't three separate failures. They were all telling you the same thing. You just heard it one at a time. Every shop has two kinds of seats. The Launchpad. People leave it going up. Lube tech becomes B-tech. That's not turnover. That's you doing your job. The Trapdoor. People leave it going out, usually inside the first year. That seat is broken.
You don't have a turnover problem.
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great point
Ask five people in your shop the same question. Count the answers.
I ask every shop owner the same question. A tech is sitting across your desk. He tells you he has offers from two other shops. Why should he pick you? The best answer I ever got wasn't an answer. The owner told me to go ask his guys. Don't interview me. Walk the shop. Talk to anybody you want, by yourself. Then decide. An owner in a different state said nearly the same thing. He'd hand the tech to his lead technician and get out of the way. Neither one answered the question. Both of them passed the test. Other owners go quiet. I ask, and the line goes silent. Not because the shop is bad. Some of these are good shops. Clean bays, guys who've been there ten years. The owner has never had to say it out loud, so it isn't there when he reaches for it. That owner doesn't run the interview. He sits through it. The tech is running it, and he already has two other offers. Most owners land in the middle. They have a good answer. Clear, specific, true. That's the dangerous one. The quiet owner knows he has a problem. The one with the good answer doesn't. The answer never leaves his head. So it never reaches his team. So it never reaches the tech. The test is already running on your shop. You're not the one giving it. A tech who's considering you asks the tool truck driver. He asks the parts guy who runs your route. He asks the buddy he plays ball with who quit on you two years ago. He reads your ad one time. He hears their version ten times. A tech told me how he sizes up a shop. He pulls the Google reviews and sorts by one star. He wants to see how you answer when somebody comes at you. That tells him more than any five-star ever will. You don't get to skip this test. You only get to decide whether you ever hear the results. Your ad is a copy. The original lives in what your team says about you when you're not standing there. Which is why rewriting the ad doesn't fix six months of nothing. That's painting over rust. The ad gets better. The tech still doesn't come.
Ask five people in your shop the same question. Count the answers.
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i will be working on this elevator pitch. I will definitely mention the longevity of my staff. I will also emphasize this is a career not a job, if you are looking for different opportunity immediately I am not interested. There is this weird sense that the interviewer should be selling me on why I should invest in them. I know not the reality but in my mind I am thinking if they are worth the effort we will put into them. As I type this it feels arrogant, but I am not interested in wasting our resources. So I better refine these thought for when they are needed. Thanks for the extra homework 👀
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