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Make it Match

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Black Widow HTE vs Porphis PRD-817
I watched Aaron's review of the Porphis PRD-817 spray gun recently, and after he got it dialed in, he seemed to like it for clearcoat. I have pretty much zero experience painting. I do have the Black Widow HTE, but I saw some guys on YouTube talking about it laying down material more slowly. My current project is a 1986 F150, and I will be spraying the entire truck and that is a lot of surface area. Since I have a bunch of projects in my future that will need painting, I was wondering would it be worth it to get the PRD-817 to use as a dedicated clear gun? Also, I wonder where Aaron would put it in his rankings of guns he's used. I know he really like the Black Widow HTE. Should I just stick with that? Thoughts, anyone?
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@Chris Kiefer You're probably right, Chris. I saw Aaron's review of the PRD-817, as well as some other YouTube videos on it, and started thinking about it too much. I know that the Black Widow has a good reputation, but I tend to overthink things, and this was one of them. Thanks for the sanity check. Still, I'd love to see Aaron do a comparison video since they're not too far apart in price.
Paint cracking at roof/quarter panel junction
So I restored my 1973 Mach 1 in 2020-2021, and the guys who did the paint did a really nice job. The roof panel and both quarters were replaced, and the joint was welded solid. The joint that had originally been filled with lead was filled with long-strand fiberglass filler that was covered with a layer of short-strand fiberglass filler and finally Rage Ultra body filler. The passenger side is perfect. The driver side started showing the outline of the joint late last fall, and now has progressed to cracking the paint. I know that I will have to sand it down and grind it out to get to the root of the problem and correct it. My question is, after I repair the problem, and blend out the panel(s), will I have to blend the entire roof and both quarters together? I have heard that only clearing the repainted areas will allow the transitions to show up in some lighting conditions. If I have to scuff and reclear the roof and both quarters I will, I just want to confirm that that is what I'll have to do. Thanks in advance.
Paint cracking at roof/quarter panel junction
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I followed the tech drawings from the 1971-72 Mustang Welding and Sealant Assembly Manual. It specified the number and spacing of spot welds. I used 1/4" plug weld holes. The quarter was welded in, with the plug welds and then also along the edge of the panel. welds along the edge of the panel. Then the roof was welded to the quarter, with plug welds and then the entire seam was welded. The engine (351 Cleveland) produces about 480 hp. so body flex and movement could be a possibilty, but I did weld in subframe connectors to help stiffen the body. I wonder if it could be poor adhesion of the fiberglass to the steel in the channel allowing movement and cracking of the filler and paint. Regardless, it's pretty frustrating and needs to come out. Then repainting and blending the dark green metallic, and I guess reclearing the entire roof and both quarter panels. Should be simple, right?
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Thanks, Aaron. You've confirmed what I was thinking. It's not what I wanted, but what I expected. Oh well, time to get to it.
👋 Welcome to Make It Match!
Glad you're here! Whether you're just getting started with automotive painting or you've been spraying for years, this community is built to help you learn, improve, and connect with other painters who enjoy the craft. Take a minute to introduce yourself by leaving a comment below. We'd love to get to know you! Tell us: ✅ Your full name ✅ Where you're based ✅ A little about your background ✅ What brought you to Make It Match (or what you're hoping to learn) ✅ What's one paint job you've seen that you'll never forget? Everyone starts somewhere, and introductions are a great way to meet other members. Welcome aboard! 🎉
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Greetings, fellow earthlings! My name is Ron Bell. I live in Jonesborough, Tennessee, up in the northwest corner in the Tri-Cities region. I've got almost no painting experience, but I'm eager to learn and I don't scare easily. I've got a bunch of projects (like 7 or 8) in the queue, so my wife suggested I just learn to paint them myself. I retired in 2020, and restored a 1973 Ford Mustang Mach 1, but it was almost impossible to find someone to paint it. I did, finally, find a couple guys to paint it in their garage, and it came out really nice, but it was a long road to get there. Now, I am working on an 1986 F150 that is completely blown apart, and sitting in primer, nearly ready for paint. Since this is my first attempt at automotive painting, I'm going to keep it simple and do an entire truck with dark shadow blue metallic. What can go wrong? And that is what brought me to Make it Match. I found Aaron on YouTube, and enoyed his videos, his systematic approach, and real world experience. Working through the classroom modules, I've already learned a bunch, and as I get into actually painting, I hope to learn how to fix the screwups that are inevitable. The one paint job I have seen that I will never forget (unfortunately) is the first paint job on my 73 Mach 1. It was SooOOoo bad. Tiger striping, fading under the rockers, not spraying the flanges on the top of the fenders, spraying the doors laying down, clear coat runs.... it was just a aweful. I was able to get the car and all the parts back, though, and after having the car blasted, was able to redo the epoxy primer, etc, and eventually got a really nice paint job on it. That is why the wife suggested I just learn to to it myself, and that is why I'm here.
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@Mike Herrin Welcome, Mike. Sounds like some interesting projects. Among my numerous projects, I've got a '62 Falcon Ranchero. I'm looking forward to seeing more about your projects.
Just joined the community and wanted to say hi
Located in southwestern Virginia. Started with the airbrush and my projects keep growing in size. Haven't painted a full car since my teens but have recently done a couple panels. My end goal is to do a full custom paint on one of my project cars.
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Welcome, Randy! What part of SE Virginia? I'm in the Tri-Cities, in NE Tennessee, about 40 minutes from Bristol.
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@Randy Sizemore That's not that far. You're only about 2 hrs from me, then.
Black with Pearl
So, my big project is to repaint my '64 Ford Ranchero. Currently, it's silver, with a lighter silver for accents. I've decided to repaint it silver, but with black pearl accents instead. The accents will be the hood and side double-dips. My question is on the black pearl. Do I buy pre-pearled black, do I mix in pearl into the black on my own, or do I spray the black, and mix the pearl into the clear? If the last, do I clear over the "pearlized clear?" For anyone asking, yes, I do have to repaint. The clear is destroyed. No, I know, I can't just re-clear.
Black with Pearl
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I can't wait to see your Ranchero finished. I think your color scheme is going to be killer. I've got a 62 Falcon Ranchero that I plan to paint pale blue with white pearl side scoops. It is #4 in the queue, though, so it's going to be a while. Did I mention it needs a lot of work?
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Retired from the Army, and career as a veterinarian. Now I am on to my next adventure, restoring old cars.

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